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Brave Little State

Homegoings: Bobby Hackney Jr. On Rough Francis' Punk-Rock Inheritance

Three people in black and white with colorful lines drawn on their clothing, against a bright blue background, with orange lightning bolts framing them
Photo: Brian Glenny, Courtesy
Graphic: Elodie Reed, VPR
From left, Bobby Hackney Jr., Urian Hackney and Julian Hackney are all brothers and members of the Burlington-born punk-rock band Rough Francis.

A conversation with Bobby Hackney Jr. about Black grief, resilience and music. 

Note: Our show is produced for the ear. We recommend listening if you can! But we also provide a transcript here.

This is the first installment of Homegoings, a special series from Brave Little State that features conversations with musicians of color who live in Vermont.  Follow the series hereas we release new episodes weekly through June 15.

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Who is Rough Francis?

Rough Francisis a punk-rock band, from Burlington, founded by three brothers — Bobby (Jr.), Urian and Julian Hackney. After learning later in life that their father and uncles were also in a1970’s punk band in Detroit, Death, the Hackney brothers began their musical journey in tribute.

Stream “Tito’s Revenge” off the 2019 Rough Francis album, Urgent Care:

Music video:

Rough Francis- Tito’s Revenge (official video)


"Tito's Revenge"

We were stepping out now we're out of step
No more shadows
No more background
Our words
Were not clear enough
You just walked on us
Now we'll walk on you

We heard the same old lines
Over and over
Over and over
This time
We want something else
Time to deliver
We need something real


Reporting, production & original music: Myra Flynn

Mix & sound design: Myra Flynn & Josh Crane 

Digital production: Elodie Reed

Brave Little State executive producer: Angela Evancie

A thin grey line.

the word homegoings written in white lettering, with a yellow crown over the "m," surrounded by cutouts of black and white lilies and carnations
Credit Elodie Reed / VPR

Homegoings is a special series from Brave Little State that features conversations with musicians of color who live in Vermont — about Black grief, resilience and music.

Follow the series here as we release new episodes weekly through June 15.

Myra Flynn joined Vermont Public in March 2021 and is the DEIB Advisor, Host and Executive Producer of Homegoings. Raised in Vermont, Myra Flynn is an accomplished musician who has come to know the lay of dirt-road land that much more intimately through touring both well-known and obscure stages all around the state and beyond. She also has experience as a teaching artist and wore many hats at the Burlington Free Press, including features reporter and correspondent, before her pursuits took her deep into the arts world. Prior to joining Vermont Public, Myra spent eight years in the Los Angeles music industry.
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